5 Considerations when sending a young player out on loan

by Thomas on February 24, 2010

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When developing the young players of to become the future of you club you take good care of them while they are in your walls. But one strategy of developing these players quicker is to send them looking for first team experience elsewhere. Therefore you will want the same level of care taken in your players away from the club. Therefore it is good to evaluate the side they are leaving for just as much as you would your own training schedules.

1. Will your player get into the first team?

Gaining first team experience has to be the most important aspect of loaning a player out. If the player isn’t going to get regular time on the pitch then they will be better staying with you. Controlling yourself how much time the players gets into the first team. Consider where they are going to fit in to the squad you send them out too. How good are the other players in comparison to your own? When sending your players out for free you will want something in terms of value back.

2. Send players to playable leagues

The way that Football Manager works is when processing none playable leagues, or those not on full detail it will generate results based mainly on reputation of the clubs involved to save processing power and data size. The lack of detail that the game processors in terms of data will effect the development of the loanee, so the more detail goes through each game the better it will develop your young players.

3. Training facilities

Sending a player out on loan you will want him to develop much quicker then he would if he stayed at home. Young players once they hit 18 or 19 will be looking to gain first team experience and quickly accelerate their attributes. The better the training facilities are the more likely it is that their attributes will rise quicker. To send them to a club that has much substantially poorer training facilities then you maybe counter productive and better staying with you.

4. Coaching Staff

You will want to trust that your young players are in expert hands when they are away from the club. Taking a look at the coaching staff before you allow the player to leave can give you an idea of how many stars they will have in training. It is most important that they have a balanced team of coaches that will allow development in different areas for your young players. But if you spend alot of time developing your own coaching team, you don’t want that time wasted with the young player out to substandard coaching elsewhere.

I think that it would be great if you were able to gain friendships and connections with other coaches, interact with them to ask the coach to concentrate on the development of certain areas when training your player. This may work as a real pull factor when you want to loan people yourself, making agreements to take good players on in order to use the expertise at your club, another way coaching could be improved.

5. Affiliation links

It is handy to consider all of the above when looking for feeder clubs for your side. Having a variety of feeder clubs to loan players out to could make it much easier to work in your own player development strategy. Sending different levels of ability to clubs in different leagues. If these clubs are able to offer balanced coaching with reasonable training facilities to develop a young player, giving plenty of first team action to your player it is much easier to handle the strategy using affiliations.

Loaning players can be a considerable benefit to the clubs that get an extra player to bolster their squad. But loans should also have a benefit for you, to help squad management and development when looking for long term success.

What do you look for when loaning out your player?

Do you consider the way your player is able to develop at different types of clubs? What do you look for at different squads before accepting bids? Please share your tips in loaning players out or discuss the ones above in the comment section below!

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jake February 24, 2010 at 11:58 am

i have placed a slightly modified copy of your guide on http://www.fm-base.co.uk, a site where i moderate. i have credited you as the creator.

thanks from the membership of fm-base

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TheZiggy February 24, 2010 at 2:03 pm

Good post about something that is very much overlooked, and I know I’m guilty of not thinking about this enough when it comes to letting players go on loan. Getting their match reports can also be a good idea, as it gives you a better idea of how often they are playing, and how well they are doing.

I have a regen currently on loan to Southampton in the Championship. While he’s not really performed that well overall, his attributes are increasing quite nicely. I can only hope they keep on giving him time on the pitch

I did something recently about a player who is on loan to a club, but spends a couple of days training back at his own club. It’s an interesting idea, because it allows that player to get the benefits of his own club’s training facilities, and also first team football. Of course this can only work realistically if the loan club is fairly close to his own.
.-= TheZiggy´s last blog ..Defending – Defensive Gap Being Exploited =-.

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Thomas Levin February 24, 2010 at 6:13 pm

That is an interesting idea Ziggy, does this happen much in real life? It would definitely give much more control to you as well as finding somewhere for them to gain experience in the first team. Maybe it could be used in the affiliation linking as well that of a contract would mean that the feeder club would be able to send a few players to use the facilities of the parent club.

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TheZiggy February 24, 2010 at 8:34 pm

I’m not sure how common that kind of setup is, but I really liked the idea. I could see that working very well for feeder clubs.
.-= TheZiggy´s last blog ..Defending – Defensive Gap Being Exploited =-.

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Thomas Levin February 25, 2010 at 11:08 pm

Its a good idea Ziggy and I hope we something similar to this in the game with a few other improvements for the affiliation. Its early but I am excited to see what sort of features are going to be in the next game already.

Johnny Karp February 24, 2010 at 3:35 pm

Great post Thomas, I agree with your selection of the five facts. Being aware of those I prefer to keep most of the youngsters in the reserve team, that way I can keep them under observation easily and they can benefit of the numerous and skillful coaching staff that I brought to the club.
.-= Johnny Karp´s last blog ..Notts County 2014-2015: Pre Season Transfer News =-.

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Thomas Levin February 24, 2010 at 6:17 pm

Well loaning players out to clubs for first team football has really been a modern strategy used by managers. I do think that it can be over rated as well by the likes of Rafa who use it more of an excuse to get rid of players when we have such a huge squad, but I would rather see him implementing young players into the Liverpool first team such as Nemeth who would have looked good for a start this season, but instead he has let him out to Greece.

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paine February 24, 2010 at 8:45 pm

The main reason I send my players on loan is to let them gain more first team football, cause rarely you could find good training facilities at lower league level.

So I become really upset when I see my loaned player comfortably sat on the bench of the team where he should have gained more experience!
.-= paine´s last blog ..Marcello Lippi’s 4-3-3 =-.

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Thomas Levin February 25, 2010 at 11:14 pm

True it can be hard to find Lower league training facilities, thats why I like to see my players go abroad sometimes to find these better facilities. But first team experience is always going to be the key thing you want out of a youngster.

It was interesting but a friend of mine was telling me that Ronnie Moore when he took some young players to Tranmere he was forced into playing players even though they were rubbish. Do you think this happens? I didn’t know how legal it was to have such an arrangement, but it be interesting to have it in FM.

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TheZiggy February 26, 2010 at 1:00 am

I’d be very surprised if there were any agreements made where a club taking loan players had to play them. It might be good for the club sending the players on loan, but you wouldn’t imagine a club would allow such a clause to be put into a loan contract, or feeder club contract. Would be interesting to know if actually happens though.
.-= TheZiggy´s last blog ..October 2012 – Ochoa Puts On A Goalkeeping Masterclass =-.

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Skacel February 25, 2010 at 8:42 pm

Number two I dont really agree with. I think aslong as the player is playing at a decent club, with decent facilities he’ll do well. I had a link with PAOK when I was Roma manager, I didnt have their league loaded but my players played loads of games and they really excelled. PAOK had a big enough rep to take on some of my best regens too, I never had one player reject a loan move there.

I always like to check the squad that Im sending the player out to, if he has a lot of competition in his position I might not send him, but if I know he’ll go straight into their team then Ill let him go.
.-= Skacel´s last blog ..Rise of the Red Dragons =-.

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Thomas Levin February 25, 2010 at 11:16 pm

Interesting Skacel, thanks for the feedback, from my own view I have always found my players going to playable leagues get a better experience, but that could have something to do with the standard of the teams that I sent the guys too. PAOK in Greece is pretty decent side to have your players go to for experience.

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phnompenhandy February 26, 2010 at 7:49 pm

1. It is crucial to make sure you ALWAYS tick the ‘can recall’ box so that you get the player back if he’s not getting regular first team action. If that means not getting a fee for his loan, so be it.

2. It tends to be the case that if the player drops down more than 2 levels, the quality of opposition will be too low to benefit him much and he’ll come back complaining about it being a waste of time.

3. I tend to divide my season into 3 parts for suitable youngsters – one third of the season out on loan; one third in the reserves/U19s and being tutored; one third on the first team bench getting a few first team run-outs.

4. I don’t think the loaning club’s facilities and coaches make much difference; it’s only the first-team playing experience that develops the loanee. However, if you’re a rich club and concerned, when you get a feeder club you can pay to upgrade their training/youth facilities.

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Thomas Levin February 26, 2010 at 9:00 pm

Phnomphenhandy, I have never thought about splitting my players season into three and doing this sort of strategy I think that it seems a great thing to do and helps you get the best of all worlds so that they will play more first team football at different levels. Thanks for the tip on that I think I will use it myself. Do you rotate the players so when you have a few players in stage 3 another few players are going out on loan and have already been on your bench?

I think training facilities don’t make major changes, but I think it is something to consider if you are sending people to a club on a regular basis.

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phnompenhandy February 27, 2010 at 2:21 am

“Do you rotate the players so when you have a few players in stage 3 another few players are going out on loan and have already been on your bench?”

Yes. I never have enough tutors to mentor all the youngsters anyway, so the tutoring happens in shifts. If there are too many youngsters, the youngest (unless exceptionally good or to cover injuries) won’t do a shift in the first team squad.

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